Mulherin's 'fornication' statements described as primitive
Deputy Mulherin ramblings continued to descend into farce as she continued, as below, before eventually being cut off mid flow by presenter, Matt Cooper, reminding her she was a Government TD, .
Mayo Fine Gael TD and solicitor Michelle Mulherin, whose puzzling contribution during a D debate on the X case yesterday, in which she declared that . . . is probably the single most likely cause of unwanted pregnancies in this country has sparked a furore that continues to run and run this weekend.
first thing is we need to have debates to move things along and arrive where we can be comfortable in a society legislating on things that have a moral element to them. We look to the issue of abortion, there are approximately 4,500 women who feel for various reasons they need to go to the UK for an abortion, in a lot of cases and anecdotally in a lot of cases, we know people are having a lot of casual sex and pregnancies are happening that are not wanted.
as murder, therefore sin, which is the religious argument, is no more sinful, from a scriptural point of view, than all other sins we don legislate against, like greed, hate and fornication. The latter, being fornication, I would say, is probably the single most likely cause of unwanted pregnancies in this country. remarks went viral on national, international, and social media within moments with commentators to websites primarily questioning the use of the old fashioned term (and its various dictionary and biblical definitions in regard to (unlawful ) sexual intercourse between parties not married to each other ) in this day and age by a modern TD such as Ms Mulherin. none the wiser as to whether she is speaking in favour of or against abortion legislation. Is she saying abortion is no worse than other sins we don proscribe or is she saying that there should be no legislation in this case? have to credit her for having the brains of the century last year she managed to fornicate in allowances every week from the Irish taxpayer. comments included, from disillusioned: swear yer TDness I caught it off a toilet seat/jacuzzi/bicycle seat. FFS? What century is she living in? I thought it was the bird and the bees. Somebody has been telling me lies spirit of Alice Glenn is alive and well in Fine Gael. the Fine Gael party is in safe hands for the future. were also some favourable comments such as: was pointing out that the religious arguments for legislating against abortion don stack up because the sin of fornication is just as grave according to the church but there is no one trying to legislate for that. as one of four Fine Gael TDs for Mayo in 2011, Michelle Mulherin was the first female councillor for Fine Gael elected to Ballina Town Council in 1999 and was also elected to Mayo County Council as Fine Gael first female county councillor.
can turn it into a joke. Take religion out of it. Where people are perhaps engaging, I surmising here, in casual encounters, where people are obviously not using protection, people are thinking this is the end of my life, I need to have an abortion; what I feel has nearly happened in this country is for years we have had morality shoved down our throat and I don agree but now we have the flip side and people are saying, let face it, to get an abortion, but let talk about the consequences, the flip of religiosity isn promiscuity; but if people are being Puma Tan High Tops
driven in a certain way towards sexual intercourse for pleasure is there something darker here, why can we talk about that?
Ms Mulherin Fine Gael TD colleagues in Mayo were uncontactable yesterday and a spokesperson confirmed that the party was no comment on the story.
that pregnancy does arise from sex. I thought at first it was a moment of merriment but the woman said it with a straight face.
Speaking on Matt Cooper The Last Word programme on Today FM following the furore yesterday, Deputy Mulherin, asked to explain her remarks, said she had spoken and honestly on the issue before stumbling into further ramblings after being asked for her definition of fornication, to which she replied: is not a word I invented, it refers to consensual sex between adults outside of marriage; we have moved towards more responsibility on the individual; in the 70s a married couple could not have legal sex without the say of their doctors on contraception; homosexuality was also illegal, all on religious grounds.
During the debate, the UCD Law Graduate and former Mayor of Ballina issued a rambling, statement as follows: am against abortion in any form myself. The grace of God is so liberating and provides so many options to get the best out of life despite our fall in nature, and we all have that. Having said that it is an ideal to aim for. In an ideal world there would be no unwanted pregnancies and no unwanted babies. But we are far from living in an ideal world. An honest and a scriptural view is that things are getting harder for people, so what then for the weak in our society?
need a discussion around who is having unprotected sex; around issues such as AIDS as well as pregnancy that can happen; there is an elephant in the room, let take responsibility for women, it about a bigger debate of how we get there. was stopped in her monologue by presenter Matt Cooper, who called on Socialist TD Clare Daly, who had raised the X case issue in the D to respond. Dep Daly said: thought fornication meant sex for pleasure Puma High Ankle Shoes 2018
such an outdated term that a deputy would even use what is Deputy Mulherin saying? In 2012, that people who are not married, that this is the cause of unwanted pregnancy? That is simply not true. To link somebody family status as being the source of an unwanted pregnancy is disgusting in the modern age. There are people the length and breadth of this country thinking this is a Monty Python sketch that someone in this day and age can even come out with such a statement but it is clearly a minority view that was met with gasps when stated in the D
The Puma Shoes Black White private members bill on the X Case which was raised in the D yesterday (Thursday ) by socialist TD Clare Daly proposing to make abortion legal for pregnant women whose lives may be at risk, was eventually defeated 109 votes to 20, with Fianna F voting against and Sinn F in favour. Following the debate, Ms Daly attacked Deputy Mulherin for her views saying: was a very astute observation on her part generally speaking Puma For Women
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